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...Is to send rude emails to the non-childfree! As mentioned in an entry in author John Scalzi's blog (extract below):

This comes in the wake of having received a ten or twelve paragraph e-mail by one of those nutbag childfree folks. As most of you know, I enjoy getting hateful mail from psychotic people, because usually nothing perks up the day like invective hurled at you by someone you don’t know. But this time around, I just wasn’t into it. The first paragraph just wasn’t there, you know? It was clear that this woman was yet another of those people incensed that the world would not give her love and chocolates just because she’s decided to make her inchoate loathing of children a cornerstone of her life. And really, I’ve been down this aisle and I’ve checked out all the specials. The prospect of wading through yet another of these formless rants just to be polite filled my brain with a lassitude the consistency of heavy molasses prior to a February thaw.

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[info]kittenhead wrote:
Jul. 24th, 2008 10:05 pm (UTC)
I commented. I bet you can guess which comment is mine.
[info]amblinwiseass wrote:
Jul. 25th, 2008 09:08 am (UTC)
Yeah, it wasn't hard. Scalzi showed you a lot more civility than I would've.
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[info]naamah_darling wrote:
Jul. 24th, 2008 10:29 pm (UTC)
Oh, dude. Scalzi, you're smarter than that. Goddammit.

I will ask that anyone commenting over there PLEASE KEEP IT CIVIL.
[info]kittenhead wrote:
Jul. 24th, 2008 11:00 pm (UTC)
Oh, I'm happy to keep it civil....Mr. Scalzi apparently is not.
[info]debu_chan wrote:
Jul. 25th, 2008 01:29 am (UTC)
BECAUSE HE IS A PROFESSIONAL WRITER!!! You are not, therefore you are not worthy of civility.

(I think he was just angry because for being a "professional writer", he did indeed get some wording wrong. Of course that's going to put him on the defensive.) Hell, everyone gets defensive when their pride is wounded, and most of us don't want to admit our pride was wounded. Still, it makes things go a hell of a lot smoother to handle things in a civil manner, and to admit when we mess up. When we do that, we don't come across looking like the bad one.
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[info]grrillaesthete wrote:
Jul. 24th, 2008 10:41 pm (UTC)
He was born in the same town I was.

It's true that the craziest of a group make the rest look bad (see also: Christians, Muslims, Sci Fi fans, men, women, et al.)
[info]shanrina wrote:
Jul. 24th, 2008 11:07 pm (UTC)
I have yet to read any of Scalzi's books. And I'm pretty sure now that I never will. The original posting was bad enough, but damn. His comments were really rude.
[info]debu_chan wrote:
Jul. 25th, 2008 01:31 am (UTC)
LoL, I'd never even heard of him until his drama with the CF. Other than his drama with the childfree, still haven't. No one I know has heard of him, or any of his books. ^_^; I have no clue if they are any good or just plain bad.
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[info]slithead wrote:
Jul. 24th, 2008 11:19 pm (UTC)
I guess Scalzi originally wrote the entry in 2004 and re-posted it. Did he say something back then that was hostile to childfree people that prompted the email that annoyed him?
[info]kosmonavtka wrote:
Jul. 25th, 2008 12:32 am (UTC)

Yes, he's got some entries in his blog archives, some being Trolling the Childfree and Cogent Childfree Arguments.

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[info]aluvrianne wrote:
Jul. 25th, 2008 05:11 am (UTC)
I've always thought this guy was a dick, but have had one person after another say I need to read his books.

I make a habit of not contributing to the paychecks of assholes. This guy is now on the same list as Orson Scott Card.

What a prick.
[info]legman666 wrote:
Jul. 25th, 2008 05:39 am (UTC)
"Orson Scott Card."

what did he do?
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[info]overstars wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC)
You're not going to be missing anything. "The Android's Dream" was about alien diplomacy that broke down through farting.

As an author, he's not all that great. Not sure why people think he is.

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[info]kittenhead wrote:
Jul. 25th, 2008 05:24 pm (UTC)
Thank you! ;-)
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[info]debu_chan wrote:
Jul. 26th, 2008 07:37 am (UTC)
o_O The internet has it's own First Amendment, just like the USA does??? No way!?

What I'm to understand is that in some regions, to use the word "kindly" when making a request, is, well... rude. She should have instead used the word "please", apparently. (I never say "kindly" because it's always something my yuppie aunt would say when making a request, but none of us find it rude from her. Just a yuppie way of making a request.)
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[info]eggtray wrote:
Jul. 26th, 2008 08:05 pm (UTC)
LOL
[info]pitbullgirl65 wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2008 07:55 pm (UTC)
I never denied that the childfree party was host to its fair share of crazy people, but it's not difficult to see how the line "one of those childfree nutbags" could be interpreted as "All childfree people are nutbags".
BAM! You said it far better then I could. Fuck you Scalzi.
[info]spooke wrote:
Jul. 26th, 2008 12:01 am (UTC)
from the comments:
You can’t know what it is to love someone unconditionally without having children of your own. Adoption is a close shadow, but not the same. There is something about having a biological child that changes something inside of you for the good.

I love the way he can see deeply into people to discover what they can and can't feel. Also, how adopted kids can't be loved unconditionally, or change you for the better in the same magical way a biological kid can.

I guess it's different when they're your own.
[info]vilify wrote:
Jul. 26th, 2008 12:57 am (UTC)
Re: from the comments:
Seriously, how insulting and small-minded is that?

What if he found out she wasn't actually his kid? Would he love her any less? Would his love suddenly be conditional?
[info]debu_chan wrote:
Jul. 26th, 2008 07:41 am (UTC)
Re: from the comments:
I hate my biological mother... Not for giving me up, or for giving my half-brother up; but for how she treated the two she kept. She had no unconditional love for them. She mistreated them, neglected them, and got them hooked on drugs so they'd be "more mellow". Well, if she hadn't been taking their Ritalin, maybe they'd have been more "mellow"!

Ugh, and my sister L- works with kids in foster care, and she sees all the time kids whose parents had no unconditional love for them. It's just not a guaranteed thing. :-(
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[info]19_crows wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2008 02:34 am (UTC)
Re: from the comments:
He didn't say that, it was someone replying to him.
[info]saadiira wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2008 05:55 am (UTC)
Actually, in the end, he and Gretchen there made peaceful pretty well, and perhaps some people due to that, and her clearheaded handling of the situation, might actually see that some people who label as childfree DO have a point, and we're not ALL nuts. Someone in there even called her pretty cool, or something like that, by the wrap up of comments so far.
[info]kosmonavtka wrote:
Jul. 30th, 2008 02:37 am (UTC)
Some of his commenters, though, are annoyingly sycophantic!
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